http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/tags/teach Imaginitive Game Development en-US Mon, 04 Jan 2021 02:30:37 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/search.php http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-585 Sat, 15 May 2010 08:47:14 +0000 Palo 585@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Heh. I just scan my drawings and convert to vector with Inkscape. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-525 Wed, 12 May 2010 02:22:25 +0000 JayZiebarth 525@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>It's really just practice, you have to train your brain to think of the computer screen as paper and not look at your hand while you draw. </p> <p>When I first started I attempted the same trace off paper technique with horrible results. It's best if you abandon that path right now. Just start small, practice drawing circles while looking at the computer screen. Don't be scared to angle your tablet to compensate for how your hand works. I find the faster you draw the better, if you go too slow it sometimes gets jagged and inaccurate, get a flow to your line the same way you would on paper. I learned on the job at an animation studio, so it was sink or swim. I think it was probably a full week of practicing every day before I really got the hang of it. Now its second nature. A lot of the backgrounds in my game were drawn completely in flash without ever drawing anything on paper. </p> <p>Also, another technique. Draw a really fast sketch just to get a nice flow to your drawing, don't worry about making it clean. Just get it drawn rough and messy. Then on a separate layer, turn the below drawing to an outline or onion skin it and then do a final line cleanup of it. That's how I approach everything I draw with a tablet in flash. </p> <p>Just keep practicing, the bubble will eventually pop and you'll just see the computer screen as a blank sheet of paper. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-523 Tue, 11 May 2010 22:47:42 +0000 Darkroot 523@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Oh ok thank I've been trying to do too much at the same time.</p> <p>Also whats the diffrence between working with a table and without? Every time I try to draw something with one it looks scewed even if I trace it with a paper being on top of the tablet. Any tips for try to concentrate on what your drawing and the computer screen? </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-520 Tue, 11 May 2010 21:10:31 +0000 JayZiebarth 520@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>start super simple with a really small manageable game. I'd say program with temp art first just to make sure the idea works. Once it's together you can update all the artwork. </p> <p>art, pre-loader and menu are the final touches. </p> <p>Game design document, if its just you making the game you don't need to get too elaborate with it. Just use it to keep all of your ideas in order. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-519 Tue, 11 May 2010 20:33:24 +0000 Darkroot 519@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>I would like to ask Jay or Steve how you begin to develop a flash game I've been trying to but I always run into a barrier of not knowing where to start or where to start first. Should I make the game first or the art?, The preloader or the menu? Should I make a game design document? </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-334 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:12:51 +0000 tman140 334@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>nice!<br /> thats awesome! </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-332 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:43:48 +0000 darkbluemullet 332@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>That site looks fantastic Jay. Thanks for the heads up! </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-331 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:31:03 +0000 JayZiebarth 331@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>To add to the flash game discussion, here's a new site that just popped up for making flash games.</p> <p><a href="http://flashgamedojo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://flashgamedojo.com/</a> </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-292 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:18:30 +0000 tman140 292@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>@Darkroot yeah its more of a 3d animator. it sometimes can be posted online. its great for beginners. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-290 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:36:33 +0000 Palo 290@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Hm, I agree, they weren't too clear. Actually I'm learning by translating the kongregate shootorials from actionscript 2 to actionscript 3. Whenever I bump into something I can't figure out, I google (blackle) it, and just keep working my butt off. Pretty good practice. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-271 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:57:47 +0000 Darkroot 271@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>@tman140 alice? is that some sort of 3d program?<br /> Newgrounds isn't a very good place to learn flash they don't have that many tutorials. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-270 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:17:22 +0000 tman140 270@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>@xXincognitoXx i use alice... it works well<br /> (i know, a little behind)</p> <p>go newgrounds! </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-203 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:17:38 +0000 Palo 203@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Thanks everybody </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-201 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:35:14 +0000 Darkroot 201@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>There are a lot of free tutorials you can google them. I don't think you will find many tutorials like the shootorials since most people don't want to make a flash game just for a tutorial.</p> <p>You can torrent, in which case you get some free ware ones and some paid ones so use at your own discretion there are a few good open source free torrent on there.</p> <p>Or google:<br /> <a href="http://www.freeactionscript.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeactionscript.com/</a><br /> <a href="http://www.kirupa.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kirupa.com/</a><br /> <a href="http://www.actionscript.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.actionscript.org/</a><br /> <a href="http://www.gotoandlearn.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gotoandlearn.com/</a><br /> <a href="http://www.cartoonsmart.com/free_index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cartoonsmart.com/free_index.html</a> -- some free most are paid<br /> I realize that most of these don't cover games in general but if you want a specific one you can just google it and a tutorial for it should come up. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-199 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:01:10 +0000 darkbluemullet 199@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>As much as I love kongregate, Newgrounds is much better for Tutorials (IMO)</p> <p>Go Here --&gt; <a href="http://www.newgrounds.com/collection/flashtutorials.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newgrounds.com/collection/flashtutorials.html</a> </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-194 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:17:48 +0000 Palo 194@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Exactly, Earl!<br /> Also, does anybody know of something like the Kongregate shootorials (<a href="http://www.kongregate.com/labs" rel="nofollow">http://www.kongregate.com/labs</a>) for ActionScript 3? </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-193 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:00:05 +0000 Earl 193@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>A free compiler that supports Actionscript 3? Nice. (In addition to sharing your fondness for opensource, I rather dislike IDEs. SciTE all the way!) </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-192 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:52:06 +0000 Palo 192@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>And thanks to Earl and Darkroot for their responses. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-191 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:50:24 +0000 Palo 191@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Hm, nope, looks I'm a bit ahead of you on this one. FlashDevelop is a "3rd-party ActionScript editor"; it's just somewhere to write your code. It has code hints and lots of neat stuff for the job, and is opensource (yes, it supports ActionScript 3). Now all you need is a compiler. I downloaded Flex SDK from Adobe, also opensource. So it's not too fancy, just code, no integrated development environment like flash. Just code. But still, it's free, and (personally) I appreciate opensource programs.</p> <p>Hey, by the way, has anybody heard of this?:<br /> <a href="http://pushbuttonengine.com/" rel="nofollow">http://pushbuttonengine.com/</a><br /> If so, can someone explain what it is and if it's actually useful? </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games/page/2#post-190 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:19:19 +0000 Earl 190@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>I'm assuming that Palo is primarily interested in flash games. <em>However</em>, if anyone's interested in making games in other languages:</p> <ol> <li>Java: Your best best is possibly Swing. You should probably consider developing for cellphones (you can get cellphone emulators for free. I've done it for Symbian before and it really isn't too painful). </li> <li>C/C++: You'll likely want to go with one of two approaches. Either DirectX (not terribly approachable for newbies), or OpenGL/Glut/SDL. Personally, I'd suggest looking for tutorials on programming games with SDL. </li> <li>Python: PyGame. Definitely PyGame. It's actually pretty fun to play with, and you can start working right away. There's no (easy) way to use 3D, nor can you make games with extreme computational requirements, but there's a <em>buttload</em> of nifty stuff you can do in PyGame. Plus, no compiler errors, because no compiling! (more or less) </li> </ol> <p>On the other hand, if you want to learn flash games for free, I can't help you out <em>much</em>, but I can tell you that Kongregate has tutorials for flash games, as well as links for a <em>couple</em> of free flash alternatives (although I don't think you'll have access to Actionscript 3, so you'll have to miss out on a few spiffy features). </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-189 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:50:06 +0000 Darkroot 189@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>@Palo you can make games in programing languages like java, c++, python and they are all free. I think you can make games with Flash Develop but I haven't seen any because it's probably much harder. If you want to make flash games then go with flash if not then free languages. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-166 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:14:35 +0000 Palo 166@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>hey, I'm starting making games too (just a kid who grew too big for MIT's Scratch) and I don't have too much of a budget either. I've been looking around and I downloaded Adobe Flex SDK and FlashDevelop, the opensource programs that seemed best. Do any of you know if this stuff can actually work to make games? </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-165 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:59:50 +0000 Tasselfoot 165@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>If you attend a college, you should be able to purchase Adobe products via a student discount. Don't know if you can do this if you're younger than college level. But it's something to look into, as Adobe does understand that the price of their products pushes many younger folk off. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-154 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:57:37 +0000 Earl 154@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>I tried something similar with the Visitor. They got stuck on... I think it was the second screen. Maybe the first. They tried for about 7 minutes, and then gave up.</p> <p>Whipper-snappers these days got no patience for nothin'. B|<br /> (Then I tried getting ashley to play Reemus. I think she got stuck on the Seasons screen. Like I said, whipper-snappers, patience, yada yada) </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-147 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:03:53 +0000 JayZiebarth 147@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Thanks! </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-144 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:29:45 +0000 charmscale 144@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>You know, my boyfriend thought it was impossible to make a good game with flash. Then I showed him Reemus. ;) </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-138 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:36:21 +0000 SteveCastro 138@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Sorry, I'm not very familiar with any ActionScript books. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-134 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:49:46 +0000 Darkroot 134@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Hey Steve would you recommend a good actionscript 3 book? I wanna get back into programming in flash since I've taken a Java course and understand how it works better. But I still don't have anything to learn from.</p> <p>Also to people who can't buy flash because it's expensive you could try getting a discounted student version. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-125 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:26:46 +0000 xXincognitoXx 125@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>Good point.<br /> I am a member to a gaming site with forums. I'll try it out and HOPE it works. </p> http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/topic/starting-out-in-flash-games#post-123 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:23:53 +0000 SteveCastro 123@http://www.clickshakegames.com/forum/ <p>incognito, if you go on any forums you could write a bit about the game with your link and see if anyone there is interested. It doesn't have to be a personal friend of yours. As long as you're not spamming everywhere, it helps us get the word out about the game and hopefully will earn you a free copy. </p>